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Rómovia budú dostávať brikety a drevo z našich lesov (Aktualizované AFP Fakty)

Oznámil to na svojej sociálnej sieti splnomocnenec vlády pre rómske komunity Ábel Ravasz. (aktualizované 13:00)

Vo svojom statuse informuje, že Vojenské lesy a majetky SR, ho oslovili s projektom, v ktorom by pre rómov vyrábali z našich lesov brikety. Rómovia by v týchto lesoch zároveň aj pracovali, dostávali plat a odniesli si domov brikety na kúrenie. Takisto chcú, aby rómovia dostávali brikety po celý rok, aj v lete, aby mohli pomocou ohňa variť.

Aktualizácia 30.7.2020 doplnené informácie od AFP Fakty:

Tvrdenia, že Rómovia mali od štátu dostávať drevo alebo že by im mal štát drevo darovať, nie sú založené na pravde a plánovaný projekt s ničím takým nepočítal. „V celom procese nikto nedostane nič zadarmo – obec spolupracuje s vojenskými lesmi, aj so svojimi občanmi, za vopred dohodnutých ekonomických podmienok,“ objasňoval Ravasz vo svojom statuse zo 4. februára 2019, informuje AFP Fakty.

To potvrdilo pre AFP aj Ministerstvo obrany SR 24. júla 2020. „V žiadnej fáze nie je a nebol projekt výroby brikiet z drevného odpadu koncipovaný tak, aby v procese niektorý z partnerov, účastníkov či občanov dostal niečo zadarmo,“ píše sa v stanovisku MO SR. 

Nie je pravdou ani to, že vyrobené brikety mali byť určené len pre Rómov. Celú schému projektu, ktorý vychádzal z iniciatívy vojenských lesov v spolupráci s obcami v okrese Stará Ľubovňa, vysvetľujeme na základe stanoviska MO SR nižšie.

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309 Replies to “Rómovia budú dostávať brikety a drevo z našich lesov (Aktualizované AFP Fakty)

  1. Zo si robíte uz srandu??? Normálny človek aj keď pracuje na píle si drevo musí kúpiť a títo??? Nestačí že byty majú zadarmo,zľavy na lieky,ešte aj drevo im dáme??? Sak nech nejsme rasisti???? Jebe Vám uz na tie sprosté hlavy naozaj???

    1. Pripájam sa, to není normálne, toto je diskriminácia slušných bielych ľudí. Keď bude cigáň zarábať a mať úplne všetko zadarmo. To akože nieje diskriminácia ? Keď si zarobí nech si aj všetko platí tak ako všetci normálny ľudia. A navyše, kôli ekológii človek nemôže už ani suché lístie vypáliť na záhrade a cigáň bude kúriť celý rok ? No paráda. Veď prečo nie?!

      1. Nechajte sa otrtkat romakom,budete mať romcata a aj ony budu mať takéto výhody, keď im to zavidite .Ste fakt hrozný, ajajaj.Keby ste sa zaoberali radšej tými k.k.t.. vo vláde, čo majú oni zadara,aké majú výhody, platy, ako nás okrádajú,…………Čo ste si vyhlasovali to aj máte.A tie byty čo majú romaci,,zadara“ =eurofondy,dotácie na romakov z EU(Starostovia obcí si fajne privyrobili🤨🤨,atď…..)Vo všetkom je sk…e.a politika. 😤🤘🤘🤝👫💏

    2. Veru, tak je! A poriadne! Biely sa snazi a este dostane po papuli od statu. Oni nerobia ani hovno tak ich zvyhodnime 😉 Moja stara mati drela cely zivot aby sa darmozracom rozdavali byty, drevo atd.

          1. Normalne je ze ich dostanu za pracu. Novinari si len zvysuju citanost ale teda tiez je otazne je ci to bude normalne.

    3. Mne sa zda, ze ten clanok uplne prekrutil o com ten projekt ma byt. Maju zbierat lesny odpad a z neho vyrabat brikety. Tie brikety ktore dostanu domov budu sucastou ich vyplaty. Na tom predsa nie je nic zle. Takisto ked ma normalny clovek na pile normalneho sefa, vzdy sa da dohodnut. Byty zadarmo su chyba, ale ze maju zlavy na lieky, nie je pravda. Zlavy na lieky na Slovensku maju rovnake aj rakusan, indian, eskymak aj slovak a to taketo https://www.vszp.sk/poistenci/zdravotna-starostlivost/uhradzanie-doplatkov-za-lieky.html

      1. Áno to je pravda ešte som nepocul, že by mal róm lacnejšie lieky. V lekárni je predaj liekov a výdaj na predpis pre každého rovnaky.
        Byty dostane rom zdarma ale nájomné má také isté ako aj ostatny ziadne, že zadarmo býva jedine keď neplati. Byty môžu aj biely dostať zdarma ak si dá žiadosť na mestskom bytovom podniku. Pre každého všetko platí rovnako to len vy ľudia robíte rozdiely. A dostanú prácu za ktorú dostanú tie brikety a??? Nebudú doma sedieť a štát im to bude dovážať rovno domov. Myslím, si že aj biely ľudia sú sociálne slabší a tiež môžu túto možnosť využiť to budete tiež nadávať?? Hm asi nie lebo stačí nadpis článku “Rómovia,, a už všetci osočuju a komentujú.

    4. Nehanbite sa veď to je úplne hanba vo či stvarate,ľudia ktorí sú na dôchodku nemajú na lieky,nemajú NATO aby žili ako sa patrí a pozerajú do penazenky či si môžu kúpiť to ale radšej toto,tak je to veľmi smutné,a pritom celý život pracovali,makali a teraz čo stojí majú ani to drevo zadarmo,menšina je prevádzkovateľ viac ako ľudia čo navas celý život pracovali a pracujú a veľké hovno stoho majú,hanba našej politike,a našej vláde,fuuuuuuuuuuuuuj

      1. Nič nemajú zadarmo a nebude to ani drevo ale odpad drevený čo je v lese a budú si tk vyrábať a budú dostávať toe výrobky ako výplatu. Sa naučte čítať a potom nadávajte na všetko.

        1. Okej. Ale chcem vidiet to ze im strhnu tie brikety ci drevo. A ze to je vazne len odpad a budu pracovat. Lebo ja tu uz nicomu a nikomu neverim.
          Mali sme podieli v lesox. Topili sme z drevom. A ked sme si narokovali museli sme zriesit povolenie od spravcu, on nam oznacil stromy ktore mozme vyrubat(tie ktore boli nezdrave alebo nejak nevyhovovali) zaplatit za vyrub za odvoz a este doma sa namakat s pripravou na kurenie. Nikto nam nedaroval a este ze zaplatil za to.

    5. tam nic take ako zadarmo nie je spomenute …. kde to tam mate ….. to je ako ked dostane pracovnik v KII auto dostane ale za pracu ako tyto romovia ved citajte poriadne.

    6. Pozrite to je neferove k slusnim ludom ktory pracuju na to aby mali na to aby kupili si to drevo. A vy tu napisete clanok ze romovia maju tam pracovat dostavat vyplatu a este dostavat drevo a brigety zadarmo ? To nic tu uz neznamenaju ludia nemame byt jednotny? Ak niekto nieco chce nemal by za tym ist ? Preco si to drevo rovno nekupia s tej vyplaty ?

      1. dajte im robotu a nie vsetko zadarmo!!!
        a bielym ludom preco nedate zadarmo !§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      2. Je to nezmysel. Brikety NEBUDÚ zadarmo – pracujúci ich dostanú ako prilepšenie k výplate. Zároveň nemožno obmedziť pracujúcich len na rómov – zamestnať sa tam môže ktokoľvek. Aj Lukáš, aj Gabika. Podmienky sú rovné pre všetkých.

    7. No dobre vám jebka na tie hlavy úplne nepravdivý článok magazín.sk sa tvári ako dennicek toto je hoax že Rómovia dostanú drevo zadarmo vytvorili článok weby ktoré pomáhajú kotlebovi aby ste viac z nenávideli Rómov už sa preberte múdry ste naozaj, najprv si overte či je to pravda až potom majte ústa pekne skacete kotlebovi do rúk 😂😂😂😂😂 a tí ktorý to zdieľate komentujte len dobre tým robíte tomu fasistovi!!

    8. dajte im robotu a nie vsetko zadarmo!!!
      a bielym ludom preco nedate zadarmo !§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      1. Mary, s tvojim IQ je asi ťažké pochopiť rozdiel medzi vládou a parlamentom, že? Lebo ĽSNS vo vláde nie je a ani niky nebola.

  2. To je už naozaj vrchol drzosti, pracujúci aj dôchodcovia si musia za všetko poctivo platiť a doslova žiť od výplaty po výplatu, a oni dostávajú už príliš veľa vecí zadarmo, tak kto je v tomto štáte diskriminovaný? Aj tí ktorí sú vlastníkmi lesov si musia za drevo ktoré si vlastnoručne spilia, samozrejme s povolením , zaplatiť, tak kde je spravodlivosť!!!

  3. Ako ludia spamätajte sa tak mi nedostaneme ani ceruzku zadarmo a oni veselo byty drevo čoze budeme este im dajme rovno nakupi vo velkoobchodoch. Co si nahadzu do kosa nech si vezmu nemusia platit naco vsak zoberte si no nie ?

  4. Vam uz j*be nacisto? Nam kto da co zadarmo? Hlavne ze neprisposobivym date vsetko zadarmo. Vsak maju socialku vacsiu ako ludia ktory poctivo robia a platia dane. Hanba vsetkym…a cudujte sa preco vsetci odchadzaju zo slovenska…

    1. Tomas, socialku maju rovnaku vsetci. Bez ohladu na rasu. Si myslite, ze by im stat dal naviac, ked nemusi? Jasne, ze nie. A tie brikety si odrobia, takze to nie je zadarmo.

  5. Jak citam, tak citam, nikde tam nevidim, ze tie brikety budu zadarmo. A jasne sa tam pise, ze budu pracovat. Ak to bude cast ich platu, tak preco nie. Nebudu brat socialne davky, zaroven sa budu moct postarat o rodinu.

  6. Zas niečo zadarmo pre nas romov nieeeee..!!!! To nie prečo zadarmo zase niečo pre nás ved vláda si sedí na stoličkach vymišlaju totálne koko&ni a zvišia si plat o 800€..tak prečo nemože dostať cigan za odp.prácu brigety lebo je to cigan ktorý má všetko zadarmo..!!!…Len vláda a vy nemáte nič zadarmo len kde sú tie 2000€ platy za jic nerobenia vo vláde ale to nikomu nevadí vám vadi oen ked cigan dostane niečo zadarmo pfuj na vás..!!!!!

  7. Z akých vašich lesov ? ved tam jasne informuje ,že z vojenských a štátnych lesov ! nezavadzajte ľudí to čo je štátne nie je vaše zapamätajte si ani štátna banka nie je vaša !!!
    ,alebo mi chcete tvrdiť ,že keď nemáte peniaze a prídete do štátnej banky tak vám dajú ?

  8. smutne co totu pisete, slovensky narod nema take vyhody ako táto mensina ktora berie co jej vlada da zadarmo za hlasy… skoda slovenska, ked takto dotuje neprisposobývych.

  9. Dúfam, že si robíte iba SKURVENÚ PIČU z normálnich ľudí. Lebo ako toto JE ČISTÝ KOKOTIZMUS! Okrádanie a v podstate utláčanie, alebo ako to nazvať? Choďte dopiče! Hlavne, že sa každý oháňa za tým, že každú chvíľu zmiznú lesy, ale hlavne, že CIGÁNOM to ZAJEBETE zadarmo. No dovi. Vyjebanci. (A nie, neomluvam sa za svojevyjadrovanie, úbožiaci.)

    1. Tak ty si ina neandrtalka iné slovíčko ako kokot pica asi nepoznáš však? Prečo nerobíš v tých štátnych lesoch teda horarsku stetku pre cigánov možno by aj to od štátu dostali grátis 😂😂😂

    2. dajte im robotu a nie vsetko zadarmo!!!
      a bielym ludom preco nedate zadarmo !§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  10. ako beriem, nech ich zamestnajú a vyrábajú tie brikety, ak sa budú vyrábať z odpadového dreva, ktoré je pováľané po lesoch. ale nech nerobia len to, ale nech aj vysádzajú stromky. je tu veľa miesta, ktoré vyrúbali nenásytný oligarty. čiže áno, jedná časť by vyrábala brikety a druhá by vysádzala stromky a by sa striedali. dostali by povedzme minimálnu mzdu + stravné a + brikety na kúrenie. čiže cca by to vychádzal zárobok okolo 650 eur v čistom aj s hodnotou stravy a brikiet.
    ako ak sa budú vyrábať z odpadovej dreviny, myslím že je to dobrý nápad. ale musí tam byť aj výsadba stromkov, ktoré nikto nerieši.

  11. Jediná ktorá vníma to čo číta. A jeden menší dotaz. Viete co to je národnostná menšina? Ze este aj tato vláda SR ťaží stoho že tu cigánov v republike má jebkovia. A nie že budú dostávať brikety zato čo si odpracuju a nie zadarmo. A ak je tu závisť tak sa potom treba hlásiť k cigánom a možno aj tebe dajú byt. Drblo

  12. POZOR!!! Absolútne prekrútená info!!! Pravdou je, že vojenské lesy poskytnú obciam drevný odpad a lis na jeho spracovanie. Lis by mali obsluhovať prevažne Rómovia na aktivačných prácach, ktorí na ňom budú vyrábať brikety. Toto palivo bude patriť obci, ktorá ho môže za nižšiu cenu predávať miestnym obyvateľom.
    Cieľom projektu je, aby miestni obyvatelia nechodili načierno rúbať stromy, ale dostali možnosť si palivo odpracovať. „V celom procese nikto nedostane nič zadarmo,“ hovorí Ravasz.
    Informácie uvedené v tomto článku na Magazin1 vyvrátilo aj ministerstvo obrany, ktoré zodpovedá za vojenské lesy. „V nijakom prípade nejde o rozdávanie ani darovanie drevnej hmoty marginálnym skupinám obyvateľstva. Tento projekt, naopak, podporí pracovné návyky dlhodobo nezamestnaných spoluobčanov,“ povedala hovorkyňa Danka Capáková.

  13. Co to tu do prdele píšete??? Ste normalny?? Ja som poloromka mam manžela a dve deti. Dcera ma2 roky a chlapec 9 mesiacov. A ja s manzelom sme obaja zamestnany, na maleho chlapca nedostavame este ani len pridavky a apsolutne nic. Ale jedno chcem ktomu povedat ani nepotrebujeme nic od tohto statu pretoze mame zdrave ruky a vieme sa uzivit aj bez almužny ktoru nam ponukaju. Odmietla som akukolvek pomoc s uradov pretoze ja si na svoje deti dokážem aj sama zarobit. Takže nesudte každého roma rovnako nie každý sme s rovnakeho cesta. To my cigani mame tiez sudit tych bielych co su na ulici a kradnu a žobru peniaze??? Tak potom ste taktiez vsetci taky ako ty co su na ulici. Konečně pochopte ze nie len medzi nami su ty ktory nepracuju a ziju tak ako žiju ale aj medzi bielymi su taky ktory nepracuju poberaju davky a maju tiez byty atd. Zadarmo. Poznam takych a nie len cigani su taky ale aj biely!!! Tak kym začněte ludi sudit tak sudte ich tak aby sa to nedotklo každého PROSIM!!!!!!

  14. Ábel Ravasz
    23 h ·
    Na krajnopravicových dezinformačných weboch sa šíri poplašná správa o tom, že chceme spolu s Vojenskými lesmi a majetkami SR zadarmo rozdávať drevo Rómom. Myslím si, že takémuto hoaxu môže uveriť len človek, ktorý vôbec nepozná prácu a filozofiu nášho úradu. V celom procese nikto nedostane nič zadarmo – obec spolupracuje s vojenskými lesmi, aj so svojimi občanmi, za vopred dohodnutých ekonomických podmienok. Je ľahké nadávať na ľudí, ktorí sa snažia robiť dobré veci v prospech verejnosti. Nehovorím len o našom úrade, ale najmä o Vojenských lesoch a majetkoch SR, ktoré sú v celej veci iniciatívne, kreatívne a nápomocné.

  15. Dobrý deň. V prvom rade by ste sa mali zamyslieť nad gramatickou úpravou textu. Národnosti sa píšu s veľkým začiatočným písmenom, čiže správne sú výrazy Róm/Rómovia, nie róm/rómovia. Ďalej by som veľmi rada reagovala na komentáre pod článkom, ktoré poukazujú na prinízke inteligenčné preferencie niektorých obyvateľov a taktiež presýtenosť pseudoinformácií z TN na TV programoch ako napr. Markíza či Joj. Prv, než napíšete, že príslušníci rómskeho etnika majú zadarmo byty, lieky, a teraz aj drevo – prosím, overte si tieto tvrdenia a možno sa potom zobudíte. Radšej dvihnite ukazovák pred našu vládu a prosím, plytvajte negatívne emócie práve tam. Či vám nevadí, že poslanci zarábajú váš takmer ročný plat za 1 mesiac a my slušní ľudia pracujeme za smiešne mzdy? Viac vám prekáža všetko, kde sa vyskytne slovo Róm? Slováci, prebuďte sa.

  16. dajte im robotu a nie vsetko zadarmo!!!
    a bielym ludom preco nedate zadarmo !§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    bieli ludia podme strakovat a nie tu picovat!!!!!!!!!!§§ vyzyvam vas podme do uliccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Lieky na Slovensku mas zadara tie čo idú najviac na odbyt všetky tie čo za niečo stoja si musíš priplatiť ak chces samozrejme účinne vyzdravieť. Kdežto Cigo pride a s vystavenim lekarskym predpisom a s dodatkom však mi to obec preplati ide do lekárne.Kedy mali takúto možnosť mlade Mamičky,ze by im štát prispel alebo z eurofondov bolo umožnené aby im obec prispela takýmto spôsobom???Žiadna a nikdy, nie su štátom chránené ako Cigo.

  18. Čo nechápete, čo nadávate?
    „Vojenské lesy poskytnú obciam drevný odpad a lis na jeho spracovanie. Lis by mali obsluhovať prevažne Rómovia na aktivačných prácach, ktorí na ňom budú vyrábať brikety. Toto palivo bude patriť obci, ktorá ho môže za nižšiu cenu predávať miestnym obyvateľom.

    Cieľom projektu je, aby miestni obyvatelia nechodili načierno rúbať stromy, ale dostali možnosť si palivo odpracovať. „V celom procese nikto nedostane nič zadarmo,“ hovorí Ravasz.“

    Nikomu nejde nič zadarmo, vážení, prosím, kľudnime hormón.

  19. Hanba nech sa spamätá čo hovoril. Cigáni všetko máju zadarmo napr. Byty, prídavky na deti , vyšší dôchodok. A bieli ľudia čo máju s týchto vymenovaných NIČ!!! Sa zamyslite čo robíte ! HANBA !!!

  20. Ty si od reality vzdialeny na sto honov to drevo dostanu zadarmo ukaz mi roma ale aj bieleho kto pojde robit v naturaliach a pozor aj ked by to drevo brikety dostali tak ho predaju prvemu chatarovi a do lesa si pojdu nabrat pre seba šak je to zadarmo a v podstate beztrestne cest vynimkam strrtol si ty noekedy roma na dedine menia sa ale to je na roky ty co nechcu tak nebudu a ti co chcu tak ich urazas poviem ti priklad pred par rokmi v pl stvrku 55 rocny rom denne kradol zelezo poklopy a pod a denne na karicke to viezol do malaciek do vykupu kde dostal cca 7 euro za 5.6 hodin roboty ked som sa ho spytal preco nejde radsej robit a dostane ovela viac povedal ze sa takto citi slobodny zi s nimi poznaj ich mentalitu a potom pis

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